In a recent episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the famous podcast host sat down with Egyptian archaeologist Zahi Hawass — and the result was, in Rogan’s own words, “one of the worst podcasts ever.” The conversation quickly turned controversial, with Hawass repeatedly claiming credit for major archaeological discoveries in Egypt while refusing to offer concrete evidence.

Throughout the episode, Hawass relied heavily on self-promotion, constantly referencing “my book” as the only source for images and information. When Rogan and his producer Jamie asked for photos or proof, Hawass deflected, saying the materials were either unavailable or located elsewhere. At one point, he admitted that his computer — which allegedly contained key evidence — was in Las Vegas, far from the studio.

Hawass also displayed a clear reluctance to embrace modern technology or scientific methods, dismissing carbon dating and other tools as “theories.” He claimed to be “the only Egyptologist with an open mind,” despite accusations that he limits access to archaeological sites and blocks independent researchers from studying Egyptian history.

The guest’s inconsistent logic was on full display when he said he believed in ancient magic simply because it was “written,” yet rejected peer-reviewed science. Viewers were also baffled when he claimed to have moved 10-ton granite coffins with just ten men using wooden ledges.

While Rogan maintained composure during the episode, the frustration was evident. Many fans criticized the podcast for giving a platform to what they described as a “grifter” more interested in fame and book sales than real discovery or academic transparency.

The episode highlights the tension between gatekeeping institutions and independent researchers in archaeology — and left many wondering how much of history is being hidden behind closed doors.